Welcome to the third installment of The Lies of Locke Lamora group read. This week, Wendy at The BiblioSanctum has provided the questions. Spoilers for the end of Part 2 and all of Part 3 follow beneath the cut.
This week was intense! I’m rereading the book so I knew a lot of what was going to happen beforehand, but I still feel those character deaths.
Before everything got so serious, I really loved that scene where Locke and Jean interrupt someone else going down the trellis and end up taking an entirely unplanned route. The punch that was “for Locke Lamora” was also a moment of humor in an otherwise very dark scene.
Camorr is clearly a man’s world. One of the three female characters who could hold any sway was cruelly fridged, while another remains notably absent. Will Sabetha will swing in to save or seize the day? What are your thoughts on Donã Vorchenza’s role?
As I’ve read this before, I’m not going to answer the Sabetha question. As for Donã Vorchenza… I absolutely adore her. If this book is ever made into a movie, I’d want to see her played by Maggie Smith. I really love that the feared spymaster is an elderly woman! And she’s now onto Locke’s game! Kudos for Donã Sofia for being smart enough to go to her.
Apprenticeships, fighting, farming–the Gentlemen Bastards have undergone some significant training (save for physiking!) and testing. What do you think of Chains’ teaching methods. Do you think he adequately prepared them for their future in Camorr?
I doubt that Chains anticipated the Grey King situation, but I think he did a very reasonable job of preparing them. If the Gentlemen Bastards have one great flaw, it’s that they don’t know when to give up and run. We’ve seen the results of that this week. Interestingly, I feel like this was foreshadowed by Chains when he was warning Locke on killing with carelessness. Of course, I think the entire situation was touched upon at the beginning of the book:
““Someday, Locke Lamora,” he said, “someday, you’re going to fuck up so magnificently, so ambitiously, so overwhelmingly that the sky will light up and the moons will spin and the gods themselves will shit comets with glee. And I just hope I’m still around to see it.”
“Oh please,” said Locke. “It’ll never happen.””
Related to the training, I didn’t think the sections on Jean becoming an initiate of the Death Goddess were wholly necessary. We’ve already had sections on how deadly Jean can be, so I feel like this section just took away from the pacing (although I loved that note he left).
I think over extensive flashbacks is a problem The Lies of Locke Lamora has more generally. I don’t mind so much this time since I already know what will happen, but I remember it being really aggravating the first read through.
Pour out a forty for those lost. Share your thoughts on the passing of the Bastards and Barsavis.
As I’ve said previously, I knew it was going to happen. I kept trying to brace myself for the character deaths throughout the book, especially Bug and Nazca. Between the Bastards and the Barsavis, what percentage of the core cast will make it out alive?
Everything in this book has been a series of long cons. Do you think taking the Capa’s throne is the end game for the Grey King? Or is there still more in store?
I know too much to answer this question. I will say that I’d completely forgotten that the Grey King was the brother of the Berangias sisters.
Here’s my question for everyone reading this – what do you think will happen with the plague ship that appeared? I feel like it has to play in somehow (or else why bother with it?), but it’s another thing that’s completely slipped my mind.